First published: Sun 16 Jul 2023.
Els Slots
The Value Of A Twhs
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Thomas Buechler
1 year, 11 months ago (Jul 16, 2023)
A great evaluation, Els.
Myself, I mainly visit the sites on the Tentative List, if:
a)they are nearby of my itinerary where I go anyway
b)they are proposed for inscription in the years to come
c)of great value or interest to me
d)I am with someone who wants to visit them
Nomadmania by the way does have separate lists and rankings for both UNESCO and Tentative Sites, and only combines the two in the category of 'Wonders'. On the people's individual profile the Tentative Sites don't even appear, also they are not counting in the people's ranking for TBT-biggest travelers.
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Nan
1 year, 11 months ago (Jul 16, 2023)
I think hunting for tentatives is a bit of a fools errant. Even with scheduled sites, the countries may change their priorities fairly late in the game, so a lot of effort is in vain.
I remember going to the Prosecco Hills 9 months before inscription. I had studied the nomination, identified key structures and went. Then the WHC cut it down and I barely made it into the greatly reduced core zone.
Last year I went to the cold deserts of Uzbekistan, but the locations were off, the description incomplete... I am not sure that the location I visited will count and I spent serious money on a 4wd plus driver.
So, how do I go about tentative sites:
* I dont go out of my way to see sites I dont care about. If i can squeeze it in along the way or need sth to do for a buffer day, it's fine.
* Scheduled tentatives are prioritised, especially if a revisit of the area is unlikely. Reason is that the success rate of scheduled tentatives unlike general tentatives is rather high.
* I make a bit more of an effort for unreviewed tentative sites.
Some practical points:
* Logistics for tentatives is often harder as they dont feature on the tourist itinerary yet.
* Without map and OUV statement it's often harder to appreciate the more exotic sites.
* Turkey uses their tentative sites for claiming, incorrectly, that these sites are unesco.
Meltwaterfalls
1 year, 11 months ago (Jul 16, 2023)
I think Nan has covered my main approach. I will visit if they are easy to pick up e.g. already on my route, have a component in a city I am already visiting.
If they are scheduled for the next couple of years I will try visit. I learned the hard way with Naumberg that a negative evaluation doesn’t mean it is a dead proposition, especially in a tenacious Western European country.
And then there are some that I am interested in anyway, and the fact they are TWHS is just a bonus to a visit I was already going to make. Some that come to mind are Pamphula, Scrovegni Chapel, works by renowned C20/21 architects
Dare I say it but as with WHS themselves, these sites are a framework to build travelling around for me, not necessarily the purpose of travel itself. (Though I will admit the thrill of a tick will mostly drive me to places I would never contemplate in other circumstances)
Nan
1 year, 11 months ago (Jul 17, 2023)
One more point to mention. The late Iain's argument was not just rule based, but also on practical efficiency.
If you spend time and money on getting to a potential tentative site with x% probability of being inscribed, this may not be the best use of your time and money overall.
A few more observations:
* It would already help if Unesco enforced minimum documentation standards before adding sites to the tentative lists. I think there needs to be some gatekeeping between aspiring and tentative.
* It's not just Turkey referencing Unesco pre inscription. Schwerin, Germany, does, too. They have signs saying "2015 - Submitted to the tentative Unesco world heritage list" or sth in town.
* Unesco should enforce a regular cleanup. If a site makes no visible progress for a decade, it should be removed from the tentative list.
* Wondering about my in vain count... It's not that many actually :)
Els Slots
1 year, 11 months ago (Jul 17, 2023)
Quoting Nan <i>Unesco should enforce a regular cleanup. If a site makes no visible progress for a decade, it should be removed from the tentative list.</i>. Really good idea. Or order that a T List may only include 10 sites at any time. The sheer numbers make it unmanageable. The 1780 sites today would take over 50 years to get all inscribed (on an average of 35 a year and even disregarding the limit of 1 per year per country).
Clyde
1 year, 11 months ago (Jul 21, 2023)
I adopt a very similar approach too, but I also put in extra effort if it is in an area without many whs and of interest to me, since the chances of returning only for that extra tick would be close to zero.
Durian
1 year, 11 months ago (Jul 23, 2023)
Another issue of TWHS is that it is an easy loophole for corruption on local governmental budget especially what I observed in Southeast Asia or even in Japan. Having local site in TWHS will create a rightful reason to set a budget to promote or to prepare nomination without proper outcome and that money go to certain academics and local construction businesses who have connection with local politicians.